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May 22 & 23 Poplar Bluff, MO June 12 & 13 Oklahoma City, OK June 19 & 20 St. Louis, MO July 17 & 18 Augusta, GA July 24 & 25 High Point, NC August 7 & 8 Chouteau, OK September 4 & 5 Wheatland, MO September 11 & 12 New Athens, IL
Attention Points Racers! Poplar Bluff, St. Louis, Wheatland and New Athens are required events, OKC, Augusta, High Point and Chouteau you must pick any two of the four races to count for points. You may attend all four and throwout your worst two. (this was copied and pasted from SLDBA website)(Liquid thunder promotions I think)
It was rumored the City of Litchfield lost their state money for tourism. I don't know if that is true or not. Saves me $200 to run for points. Wags
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Litchfield was planning to move all of the pits to the out ramp. That likely would have cut racer participation. Be interesting to see how many $200 that cost SLDBA. Somebody needs to atart a pool on the nunber of boats at New Athens this year.
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quote:Originally posted by wagspe208: Saves me $200 to run for points. Wags
but you gotta pay $200 to somebody dontcha???
Yes, I do. I will pay KDBA, get my oil again, on time, and money goes to the club with the newest and nicest equipment. Win, win, win. Wags
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quote:Originally posted by wagspe208: May 22 & 23 Poplar Bluff, MO June 12 & 13 Oklahoma City, OK June 19 & 20 St. Louis, MO July 17 & 18 Augusta, GA July 24 & 25 High Point, NC August 7 & 8 Chouteau, OK September 4 & 5 Wheatland, MO September 11 & 12 New Athens, IL
Attention Points Racers! Poplar Bluff, St. Louis, Wheatland and New Athens are required events, OKC, Augusta, High Point and Chouteau you must pick any two of the four races to count for points. You may attend all four and throwout your worst two. (this was copied and pasted from SLDBA website)(Liquid thunder promotions I think)
Wags
I don't like this. Run 8 races and throw out your worst 2. Gives the racer with the money an advantage. Should be, you can run all 4 but you declare which 2 you are going to claim BEFORE the season starts. Need to keep the playing field even. Just my 2 cents worth.
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I am sad to see that Litchfield is gone, and I agree with you Tim, the way it is set up allows for the person with the most time off or the most money to go to all the races and put a hold on a points race by taking the two races they do the best at, I am glad to hear of the Wheatland track, but I would rather hear of the club just decide on 2 other tracks to make required or as Tim said have the racer declare thier 2 other points races prior to racing them.
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quote:Originally posted by River Rat 005: I don't like this. Run 8 races and throw out your worst 2. Gives the racer with the money an advantage. Should be, you can run all 4 but you declare which 2 you are going to claim BEFORE the season starts. Need to keep the playing field even. Just my 2 cents worth.
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i don't like anything about the concept. it's like getting "do-overs", and to me that's not dragracing. i realize nhra divisions work that way - you can race 8 races for points, than throw out your 2 or 3 worst. they still have to declare at registration if they are there for points or not. but imo it still sucks. the schedule for points should be set. and if it's too long, shorten it...
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The problem comes from not having an asssociation on the east coast to promote the sport there. The St. Louis club has been trying to pick up the slack and offer some points races to the east coast boys where they do not have to drive 15 hrs to get to their closest race. You make OKC and Chouteau the races and no one from the east will race SLDBA. You make Augusta and High Points the race and you loose the racer from the Wast side of the area. It is a lose lose so you make all of them races hoping you will draw a few more boats to those venues in support of the promoter while at the same time giving your racers more choices. I can not tell you the hours spent trying to come up with a schedule that helps out the Promoters, gives the ASSN enough races to make it a worth while Points Chase and keep the racers happy. You just can't do it
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Last year they went to that.Go to all 4 races if you want (nobody did) to thow out 2 of the races that you want to. Or You just didnt go to 2 of them and throwed them out it seemed to have work pretty good
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Its not good for a promoter to allow racers to throw out any races. You should just have a set schedule for the racers to attend, run that shedule for points and have points champions from the same level playing field as all other racers.
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quote:Originally posted by RSQBUZZ: The problem comes from not having an asssociation on the east coast to promote the sport there. The St. Louis club has been trying to pick up the slack and offer some points races to the east coast boys where they do not have to drive 15 hrs to get to their closest race. You make OKC and Chouteau the races and no one from the east will race SLDBA. You make Augusta and High Points the race and you loose the racer from the Wast side of the area. It is a lose lose so you make all of them races hoping you will draw a few more boats to those venues in support of the promoter while at the same time giving your racers more choices. I can not tell you the hours spent trying to come up with a schedule that helps out the Promoters, gives the ASSN enough races to make it a worth while Points Chase and keep the racers happy. You just can't do it
Running 6 out of 8 for points helps everyone out. But if I had BP's time and funds I would run all 8 and few SDBA races also.
Running 6 out of 8 for points helps everyone out. : [/QB][/QUOTE] Except the guys that work for a living and do not have unliimited funds and time off.
I wonder how many $200 fees this will cost St. Louis. Hell, many KDBA guys go to st. louis races. At KDBA you get your oil, and can race SLDBA for free then. Win, win. Wags
BTW BP, your membership is up for grabs. Sign up for KDBA an I will haul your oil all over until I see you, then deliver it myself.
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alota point championships are bought and payed for not won any way cause you gotta be there to win
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quote:Originally posted by Ray Neudecker: Eight races for the championship of a club which is only putting on three races of their own.
Wow, that is a good point. Much cheaper to race like that. Even the "grass roots" "hillbillys" can put on 4 races of their OWN. Wags
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Hey Wags... remember three of which are at the same place. I would love to be able to put on three races at Creve Coeur but at $6,000+ for the lake you would be racing for fun because the purse would go to the State of Missouri. I will defend this for the SLDBA(board)It has not been able to find water that is suitable for racing where there is a local promoter,(for those who do not know SLDBA promotes Poplar Bluff, St. Louis and New Athens and takes on all the risk themselves) and the majority of the racers will not have to travel a long distance to run. They have supported other venues in the past and before they mandate a race they take into consideration, how far their members will have to travel.
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Buzz, I was just surprised as Ray pointed out that a "professional" club only has 3 races of their own. Hell, just call it the Lucas Midwest series and make everyone go to all 8 races. I guess it is amazing that a "hill billy" "grass roots" club can put on 4 races of their own. No promoters and a "professional" club cannot. (So there are 3 races at the same venue or course. Hell, it is a great place to race. Excellent water 98% of the time.) I was just pointing that out. It is somewhat ironic...don't you think? BTW, those "" words were all uttered by Charlie Z. Along with "hill jack", "backwards", "hoosier", "outlaw", and many others. IRONIC by definition. LOL Wags
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quote:Originally posted by PCE680: Running 6 out of 8 for points helps everyone out. But if I had BP's time and funds I would run all 8 and few SDBA races also.
and i'll disagree with you everytime on that one ron. people will drop out like leaves outta trees, just due to time/travel.
and if you had my funds running all 7 or 8, you'd be sleepin in the back of the truck or on the ground.
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